Many people prefer to do business with those they know, like and trust. So to help you get to know some of the great people behind the businesses in New Jersey, NJBIA produces “Other People’s Business,” a fun podcast, hosted by Kate Conroy and Vinnie Civitillo, that airs every other Wednesday on YouTube or your podcast network of choice

Whether you’re a long-time subscriber, or just reading about it for the first time now, here is one of our favorite episodes from 2020:

Retiring at 40 with Your Chef Boyardee Meatballs 

Recognizing the stress that comes with managing one’s money, Kelley Holland started her company Own Your Destiny to help women stop feeling scared about their finances. On this episode of the show, she dropped in to talk to us about it, as well as how people manage to save enough to retire at 40 and whether or not she recommends it. However, the show goes sideways when Kate and Vinnie have it out over Chef Boyardee meatballs.